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I'm sorry, I guess I missed something
But since when did "original pairings" come to mean "better stories?"
I make an effort to avoid being overly negative on this lj (God knows there's enough of that already), so I'm probably going to regret saying all this shit later, but is that seriously a prerequisite for a good story these days? An "original pairing?" That's interesting, because I thought there might be other qualifying factors, like a strong narrative, or a nicely paced plot, or, hm, maybe well-developed characters, perhaps?
This isn't just an issue I have with fandom. This is an issue I have with any film, any book, any TV show that goes out and says, "I'm gong to do something different and original!" and then winds up sucking because you dumbass writer/director/producer-type decided that so long as you had an "original" concept, you didn't need to focus on any other aspect of the film/book/show that might actually make it palatable and worth my time.
Originality is an excellent thing, don't get me wrong, but it is not the sole basis on which you can (or should) judge the value of a creative work, especially when it comes to anything involving writing.
Of course, what makes something "better" is subjective. But to be that dismissive and arrogant about it? Frankly, I find it pretty fucking aggravating. And pretentious. Get off your high horse and just do as you do. I don't have a problem with which characters you want sucking each other's faces, so maybe you should quit copping an attitude about the rest of us.
W/E, just W/E, you guys. I'm having the painters in soon, so I'm allowed to be moody >8C
I make an effort to avoid being overly negative on this lj (God knows there's enough of that already), so I'm probably going to regret saying all this shit later, but is that seriously a prerequisite for a good story these days? An "original pairing?" That's interesting, because I thought there might be other qualifying factors, like a strong narrative, or a nicely paced plot, or, hm, maybe well-developed characters, perhaps?
This isn't just an issue I have with fandom. This is an issue I have with any film, any book, any TV show that goes out and says, "I'm gong to do something different and original!" and then winds up sucking because you dumbass writer/director/producer-type decided that so long as you had an "original" concept, you didn't need to focus on any other aspect of the film/book/show that might actually make it palatable and worth my time.
Originality is an excellent thing, don't get me wrong, but it is not the sole basis on which you can (or should) judge the value of a creative work, especially when it comes to anything involving writing.
Of course, what makes something "better" is subjective. But to be that dismissive and arrogant about it? Frankly, I find it pretty fucking aggravating. And pretentious. Get off your high horse and just do as you do. I don't have a problem with which characters you want sucking each other's faces, so maybe you should quit copping an attitude about the rest of us.
W/E, just W/E, you guys. I'm having the painters in soon, so I'm allowed to be moody >8C
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OH FOR FUCKING SERIOUS. "Yes, I am a mature fic writer, so I'm going to be a dick to a bunch of thin-skinned teenagers! Haha, they are so immature!" FUME. Self-awareness, much?
Good arguments? What good argument could anyone possibly have for yelling at a thirteen-year-old over the internet? Is there really some sort of valid justification for telling a non-fully grown adult that their writing sucks and made you want to vomit? Oh my God, I wish I could reach through the internet and bitch-slap your ass. (Not yours,
Hearing that just reeks of, I don't know - people working to reinforce their smug self-superiority. Well, if belittling kids on the internet makes you feel better about yourself, have at it, you giant bag of dicks. Ugh. You have a right to be angry, because man, does that piss me off.
you either have to be a brilliant, talented rrb/ppg writer or a mediocre 'original pairings' one to impress them.
I definitely think PpG/RrB fic is held to higher criticism than other pairings because the pairing is synonymous with "shit." Unfortunately. And untruthfully.
Avatar was beautiful. It was stunning to watch, and I saw it in one of the 3d's (I think it was RealD? wtf/e). The depth of field was absolutely amazing. The story... okay, I only had a problem with the story in that I figured out everything that was going to happen, like, a quarter of the way into the movie. Which is okay, I do that with a bunch of other films. Predictable is fine, it's okay if we've heard this story before. But... agh, Cameron's characters! They were so boring and flat. I had no sense of what really drove them or made them care about each other, except in the most general way that those traits can be associated with those types (cocky young hero, headstrong princess, disapproving fiancee, crazy soldier, etc.). And the movie as a whole would've bugged me less if it hadn't been lauded for its writing. Visuals, yes. It looked like the film equivalent of gold. But nominated for a WGA award? With that script, that dialogue? Cameron, you named the unobtainable resource unobtanium. You really named it that. You named it unobtanium. I just, oh God, ow. OW. I was baffled at all the non-visual accolades the film was getting, but then again, I didn't really see a lot of films this past year, so I have no idea what it was up against. (And judging from my reaction to this one, maybe that was a good thing.)
Pixar movies, even their weakest ones, still tend to be light years ahead of other films. I mean, Pixar's practically become its own class of movie, where the only way its films can be judged is against each other.
PatF was overall a bit of a letdown for me. It felt like it was trying a little too hard to be Disney's comeback movie. A lot of the visual gags felt pretty forced, and oh God, I hate, hate, hate soft shadows done in After Effects. YOU HAVE AN ENTIRE TEAM OF ARTISTS WORKING ON YOUR FILM. JUST DRAW THE GOD DAMN SHADOWS, DON'T HAVE A COMPUTER PROGRAM DO IT FOR YOU. Eeeyaaaaagh.
... Dude. I think my comment almost beats your comment in terms of length. (Ultimately, thank you for being a sane person.)
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By good argument, I mean one that's logically sound, but has absolutely no infusion of emotion. Kids are emotional, nowadays more than ever. As a thirteen-year-old myself, I know how to treat quite a few of the fanbrats. But about two or three years ago(when I was writing on ff.net illegally...shhhh) it really hurt to get flames. They made me grow up, but they certainly aren't going to make everyone do the same.
I want to tell them to freaking think back to when they were teens, it's like they already forgot all the emotions, hormones, popularity, and pain that goes along with it. Belittling someones hobby or talent will never be the right thing to do. If they can't be kind in their reviews or even acknowledge that they can be dicks, then I'm not even sure if they should be reviewing in the first place.
I saw Avatar in Imax. It was amazing, but I swear I still have a migraine. It's really hard to make a surprising story in Hollywood nowadays, comedies are getting better plot lines and characters than the dramatic movies. Actually, I saw a lot in the characters. Then again, I see a lot more than I should in everything. I did see the genral personalities(cocky hero, princess, etc.) but there was a lot of underlying hints and tricks that were really clear to me. But yeah, it definitely didn't deserve awards outside of visuals.
As I said before, Disney was just trying way too hard to make and original movie. The Princess and the frog was a great story by itself, Disney added so many unneeded aspects to it.
Long comments are fantastic~
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Okay, yeah. My mind is blown. Wow. Wow.
I cannot find an appropriate icon for this. I am so ashamed.
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Don't be mind-blown, everyone always says I'm an nineteen-year-old trapped in a younger body.
...Unless that's not what you're talking about, pffffhhh.
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And yep; two wrongs don't make a right. Fighting fire with fire is never the best solution. Look how that ended with Mojo Jojo :P It metaphorically and semi-literally blew up in his face.
And if you do respond to immaturity with immaturity...basically, you get a vicious cycle known as "drama."
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THIS.